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i feel a little bit brighter and my mind just feels sharper. i would recommend it to anyone. it absolutely works. prevagen. healthier brain. better life. >> sandra: i'm sandra smith in for martha maccallum tonight, and this is the story. three months from today, america will decide if president trump is elected to a second term. his campaign now racing against a 92 day countdown in the polls showing the president is trailing in key battleground states including florida, michigan, north carolina, and pennsylvania where early voting begins next month. politico declaring today a dwindling window of time to turn the election in his favor. trump 2020 director of press communications is here to respond. along with karl rove and
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donna brazile. also had tonight, dr. scott atlas. plus a story exclusive with an illinois democrat taking action to abolish history classes in schools. the first director, great of you to be here tonight. so we hear a lot about your campaign trying to turn things around. 92 days is a long time for election years, not a long time for politico, writing today about this dwindling window of time to turn things around so is it too late for donald trump's campaign? >> absolutely not. president trump is on the rise and searching and pulling. as a president at a 51% approval rating which is actually seven points higher than where former president barack obama was at this same point in 2012. and let's look at the enthusiasm gap that exists. is real and a real problem for
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joe biden. president trump supporter's or 70% more enthusiastic to go out and vote for him than joe biden. makes sense. president trump has delivered for the american people. joe biden's supporters are not excited to be out there. he's going to have a hard time entering out matters in elections so when enthusiasm is so much higher for president trump, joe biden has got some problems. >> sandra: i hear a lot of concern for me when that's obvious considering you're speaking on behalf of the campaign, but that is what we have been hearing from you, your campaign manager on fox news this morning but the president with that tweet last week questioning the laying of the election many to believe he is showing a sign of weakness or at least concern about the state of the race. april ryan, a political commentator on another network went as far as to say it's not only that, but if he loses the election, this is what will happen. listen. >> there's going to be a split screen on january 20th, 2021.
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joe biden is now set to be the 46th president of the united states, it will have him being inaugurated and watching police and armed forces trying to pull donald trump out of the white house. >> sandra: you heard similar sentiments from hillary clinton, maxine, and other donald trump critics. a similar sentiment that he won't accept the outcome of the election and that is our instance that he won't even leave the white house. how does the campaign respond to that? >> this is democrats again pedaling in conspiracy theories because they know the facts aren't on their side. president trump is surging to victory in november, and he raised a very good question. >> sandra: would lead you to say he is surging in victory? >> absolutely. our internal polling is always ahead of where the public polling is, shows the president competitive or leading in all of the states we are tracking. we are aggressive, already
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registered double the voters we already did. at this point in 2020, we know where our voters are. we understand the early voting game. joe biden doesn't have that, he was hiring staff in wisconsin. we know where the metrics are. >> sandra: they say that is in play as well. so i want to ask you also about the campaign spokesperson for joe biden. i had a chat with her this morning and something stuck out to me when we were talking about the debate because this is emerging as a big issue, whether or not joe biden will debate, but she went as far as to say it's the trump campaign that isn't committing to the debate structure. listen to this. >> there is one candidate who has agreed to debates and that is joe biden. the trump campaign is actually not agreed you have to participate in a debates set by the presidential election. >> sandra: is she wrong? is the trump campaign not committed to the three general election debates against
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joe biden? >> president trump will be debating joe biden if joe biden decides to show up. i watch that interview. she left yourself a little bit of a trapdoor there are not concretely saying joe biden will actually debate president trump. said he agreed to the debates but not actually if he would show up in the american people deserve to see that exchange of ideas as our campaign manager said this morning. should be having those earlier because of the structure of early voting. we need to be able to have that exchange of ideas, show the stark contrast that exist between the america first policy is. >> sandra: i'm running out of time but has the campaign committed to the campaign commission on those debates? yes or no. >> president trump has committed to being able to have a debate with joe biden. that is a conversation they deserve to hear.
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joe biden is the one who is setting a trap door so he can try to escape from actually having a full conversation about his disastrous policies for this country. $7 trillion in tax hikes this economy is trying to come back from the coronavirus is not with this country needs and the american people deserve to hear it. >> sandra: we don't know the trump campaign is pushing for more debates in earlier debates. we appreciate you coming on, thank you. let's bring in karl rove, former deputy chief of staff and a former dnc chair, good evening to both of you and good to see you. so what is happening? described the current state of the race as it is this evening. >> we are at a point where sometimes with the campaign's claim to be doing is not borne out by the facts. biden claims i'm running television ads in texas, doesn't tell the media how much he is spending on television.
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i've got a friend of mine saying he spent roughly $70,000 in television in texas with 16,211,000 voters so he spent 41,000th of a cent per voter in order to reach texas. he is spending more in youngstown, ohio, than he is the entire state of texas. so this is where mind games come into play. every campaign does it, trying to do it, but we are going to have to sort this out later this month and see where people are putting large numbers of staff, large amounts of the candidates time and large amounts of the campaign's money until we figure out really where each side is playing. >> sandra: what is going to be the move on the part of the biden campaign when it comes to the debates back you've got a former bill clinton press secretary urging joe biden don't do it, don't debate donald trump. >> joe biden has already committed to debating donald trump, three debates, and that's with the commission is
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coming up with. i don't think that's a big issue. i think joe biden is ready. when i listen to the trump campaign spokesperson, she talked about the president is surging. the only thing surging is covid, the number of hot spots across the country. the number of americans who are filing for unemployment, the number of deaths that continue to rise still. will be a competitive election, karl rove knows this better than me. he keeps the books as well. there is one little difference i'm noticing, not a lot of undecided voters and that should belong to president trump. >> sandra: interesting when it comes down to timing when it comes to increasing the staff in texas, the national state director for the campaign saying this. we are quite serious about putting texas in play. we're seeing the polls showing that there is real opportunity,
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can joe biden when the lone star state? go for it. >> i don't think at the end of the day. let's be honest about what this is about. it's not about texas electoral votes, it's about trying to affect the outcome in the texas house of representatives races. today, president obama endorsed a number of candidates, democrats down by nine and hoping to flip the texas house and thereby kick it into the federal courts so a federal judge draws a line rather than rep legislature. six people run to the texas campaign, that's just absurd and the idea that biden is going to be serious about contesting texas, i want to come back in a couple of weeks when you next post and let's discuss how serious they are in texas at that point compared to places like arizona or florida or pennsylvania or wisconsin that are actually going to be in play. >> sandra: i will tell martha you said hi. a sander this evening. >> i know. >> sandra: what happened in
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new york city, i want to hear about the president's concern about mailing voting. this is "the new york times." bby the botched nyc primary has become the november nightmare, nearly six weeks later, two congressional races remain undecided. lots of blame is being thrown around but is there a point of concern here that is legitimate? >> absolutely. when you have a discrepancy between what was postmarked and what was not postmarked and when you see some of the other problems, of course, it's incompetence and that is why you have to train local elected officials and why we have to prepare for this coming election. i do believe that mail-in ballots as well as absentee ballots. >> a republican and a democrat advisor for the secretaries of
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state, if you do not already have 60% of your people casting votes by mail, don't attempt to do it before this election. for example, washington state took five years to put in place a system for practices and equipment to do this. his going to be a disaster and it's not going to be good for our democracy and we also have stupid things like nevada that has just voted to send a ballot to everyone on the file who is an inactive voter. that means they have not voted in at least six years in the post office has already told local election officials those people no longer live at that address and if that is still going to send a ballot out. what kind of confidence what we have those return? >> sandra: the story emerging is filing a federal lawsuit saying this election is a canary in a coal mine. great to see you. i will relay the message to martha. 9-year-old janari ricks was just playing outside when a gunman opened fire in the city of
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chicago hitting him multiple times in the chest. >> he was playing with friends on a warm summer evening just outside his front door. then shots rang out, and now instead of planning for his future, his parents are arranging their child's funeral. >> sandra: the violent crime it's close to home. he will join us live. a plus, former new york police commissioner will join us live next. n they got a little surprise... two!? ...they didn't panic. they got a bigger car for their soon-to-be-bigger family. after shopping around for insurance, they called usaa - who helped find the right coverage for them and even some much-needed savings. that was the easy part. usaa insurance is made the way liz and mike need it-
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homicides this year alone. according to "the wall street journal," chicago the worst hit has tallied more than one of every eight homicide. on friday, another child was lost in a violent crime surge they are. 9-year-old janari ricks, an honor roll student set to begin the fourth grade was playing outside when a gunman opened fire hitting him in the chest. his heartbroken mother telling the chicago sun time "he was unable to pursue his dreams of becoming an athlete. he wanted to do construction. he wanted to rebuild the community. "community activist is now urging his killer to turn himself in. he joins us now. there andrew, you are known to do phenomenal work on the ground. you stepped into moments like this. you try to bring the community together, you're a try in this instance reaching out for any information you can get on the killer but to this poor family who lost their little boy who loved basketball that inspired
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his neighbors. >> that's true. it's tough on that mother right about now in tough on that father. that three or 400 children in that section over there. >> sandra: what is happening there? what is happening? >> you have so much self-hatred. and the first thing they want to do is grab a gun to settle their problems, which is wrong. and also, we still have drugs here, gangs there. but overall, it's just self-hatred. no love for the next person. it's am i my brother's keeper or my brothers killer. >> sandra: so hard to look at these pictures and this hits close to home for you, you lost a daughter to gun violence.
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>> absolutely. i'm still traumatized by it every day. that's my baby, my firstborn, and it's tough. i'm still in the healing process because i'll never get over it. you don't hear those footsteps and hear that voice and i know what these families are going through. >> sandra: but it inspired you to do what you're doing, and you are doing something so important, and that is building and establishing trust in these communities, and you are actually actively working as a liaison to the police. in this particular instance, this 9-year-old boy who lost his life, have you gotten any leads, any information? i know you're still offering a $4,000 reward. >> we got a lot of tips in. it's not necessarily about the money because his life is worth more than we could put up, but trying to find out where the perpetrators are, than we do
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what we have to do. but the community is stepping up, i asked them not to point their fingers at the detectives over the police. port the finger where the shooter is at. why would you take this child and then run like a coward? >> sandra: our heart breaks for that family and for you and your family after losing your daughter. thank you for sharing your story and thank you for what you're doing. >> absolutely. and they do have a nationwide national call center. >> sandra: thank you for coming on tonight, appreciate it. also tonight, former new york police commissioner, you hear those stories. you hear his stories, his personal family stories, that 9-year-old boy gets a knock on
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the door, son is dead in the street. is terrific to hear what is happening and it's not getting better. and you hear about that man we just spoke with, andrew holmes who has figured out a way to build trust in the community so that he can be working with the police, find the killer, hold criminals accountable. your thoughts? >> you know what? mr. holmes is one of many people that are real community leaders, real members of the community that can work with the police to do work with the police, and we have that in new york and communities all over the count country. this incident especially with a 9-year-old child reminds me of new york city back in the ' 80s in '90s were mothers had to put their babies in bathtubs at night to put them to bed because they were afraid of random gunfire. we were the murder capital of the world before giuliani came
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into office in 1994 and between '94 and 2002, we dropped it in homicides, murder by 70. and the black communities, that number dropped by 80%. can be done, but you need the right leadership. you need the right mayors, you need people to understand you have to put resources into those communities. you have to put the police on notice to go out and do the job that we are supposed to do given the resources, the training and the equipment to do that job and reduce crime, shootings, and murders but in a lot of these communities, it's just not happening. >> sandra: you look around the streets of new york, you don't recognize it after being gone a couple of months and locked and you come back, it's scary. get back to law and order and feeling safe on our streets again and add to your list of what we need to do to support the police because you read the stories now in promoted a police
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chief, just killed himself over the weekend here in queens, new york, a member of the new york police department killed himself, suicide rate for the police department is up. >> the stress on the cops right now is beyond our comprehension. they are getting bashed by the press and the media, getting bashed by their own community leaders, they are getting bashed by the mayors o on the governor. we have a mayor in new york city that painted a black lives mural in front of trump tower supporting a group, a domestic terror group that has called for the assassinations of new york city cops. they have a lot to worry about, but they can do the job when it has to be done and need leadership and power to do that and they have the wrong leader for sure in new york city. they need a new mayor. >> sandra: didn't even start in minneapolis, residents there
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say that they call the police, sometimes they show up, sometimes they don't. the police even issuing warnings to residents there, don't walk around with a cell phone. don't walk around with cash, don't fight back if approached. >> you know what >> blake:? every member of every community like this that is run by a democrat in this country need to look at that letter because that is going to be your community. here are going to be told the same thing. that's going to be the democrat manifesto for these communities that are lawless and complete disorder. >> sandra: it's tough for us to hear that. appreciate you coming on, thank you. tropicals to isaias now forecast a strength into a hurricane bringing dangerous winds and storm surge as it closes in on the carolinas at this hour. we'll take you there live next. e here at amazon.
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>> sandra: the tropicals to remake in its final approach to the carolinas projected to make landfall tonight with dangerous winds and storm surge. senior correspondent rick leventhal is live in north carolina watching its past. hey, rick. >> we are definitely getting whipped here and now on atlantic beach. the winds have picked up, 30 miles an hour, you can see that red warning flag behind me getting blown around pretty good. the beach is officially closed but we have some folks out here enjoying the evening because fortunately, it's not raining yet. but take a look at why the beaches close and that's the surf, the waves just turning out in the atlantic and as he pans over, you can see how they're slamming against the pylons on that peer, coastal watches and
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warnings along the carolinas, told that isaias will likely strength into a weak category one hurricane by the time it hits land here sometime after 10:00 p.m. between where we are in south carolina. so it's going to bring six to 8 inches of rain and places, perhaps two to four storm surge and some wicked weather that could lead to power outages. we had some drone footage we shot earlier showing the warning flags on the beach here, and we heard from president trump earlier about an emergency declaration being issued for north carolina, south carolina, and florida and how they are watching the storm as it moves up the coast. >> we are working with each of those states and in particular as it relates to fema, the military, law enforcement, all of the different groups that are involved. storm surge and inland flooding are possible and everyone needs to remain vigilant until it passes.
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>> again, not too bad right now, but we are told to expect some wicked weather, good could get slammed just a few hours from now. >> sandra: we are all going to be watching it and you be safe. rick leventhal on the beach there in north carolina, thank you. researchers now say college students can safely return to campus this fall, but a key component must be part of the reopening plan. yale professor authored that study any he will reveal its findings plus dr. scott atlas next. >> we must focus on protecting those at higher risk while allowing younger and healthier americans to resume work and school with careful precautions. we want to open those schools, we want to open them.
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>> sandra: a deep dive into
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the covid-19 a risk on college campuses has deemed it safe for students to return with certain conditions in place. researchers from the yale school of public health, harvard medical school, and massachusetts general hospital have found "screening every two days using a rapid, inexpensive tests, even when that was not always accurate when maintain a controllable numbers is coupled with strict behavior interventions such as quarantining positive students and isolation dormitories for the lead author of that study joins us now, professor at the yale school of public health. we are really excited to have you come on and tell us about the findings of this study because this has been in question, whether or not college students can return to on-campus learning. what has the study revealed to you? >> good evening, sandra and thank you for having me on your show. you've got it exactly right. the analysis shows that there is a safe way to reopen college where the key element of the plan is screening all students
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of the virus at very high frequency every two or three days using a rapid, inexpensive test alongside strict, vigilant adherence to social distancing and other basic prevention practices. but i do want to caution that we are setting a very high bar and our recommendation may very well be beyond the financial and logistical reach of many universities and any schools who can't see a way towards meeting those minimum standards really need to ask itself that has any business reopening. >> sandra: it's my understanding using computer simulation on how it would spread among the hypothetical cohort of 5,000 students. what did you find? with the big numbers look like when you were able to screen and test those students? >> the most surprising finding was the fact that frequency is the most powerful variable that university administrators control. frequency, if you could choose between testing every two or three days with a test that was pretty good and pretty
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inexpensive or a much more accurate test at higher costs, he would take the first one. >> sandra: i think my first and natural reaction to that is then if you give somebody a false negative that they would feel really comfortable going out to the bars or restaurants that night or go to a party come and socialize with friends and could be carrying it and then you end up with a huge spread of covid-19. >> a great reaction, you're absolutely right, which is why vigilant adherence to social distancing has to go hand-in-hand with the frequent testing program. >> sandra: really interesting to hear all of that. there was a cost of this. the study estimates that this screening package if you will would cost students and their families, whoever's paying for it, $470 per student per semester. >> it's expensive. may very well be beyond the reach of many schools. i don't think it's prohibitively expensive, but that's where the
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schools and the students and their families to decide for themselves. >> sandra: a lot of people that want to get their kids back to school might be willing to do all of that. final thoughts? >> the alternative, i want to be very clear, is not sufficient. many schools are considering the option of carefully monitoring students for just symptoms of covid and using those signs of symptoms to trigger testing and isolation and contact tracing. we've had thousands of scenarios and we've failed to find even one possible circumstance under which that would be sufficient and the reason is pretty clear. this is a virus that is very easily spread a symptomatically by silent spreaders. you can't play catch up with this virus. you can't move fast enough to contain an outbreak if you rat t
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until the symptoms. schools that test and respond only when symptoms have been observed is like a fire department that responds only to calls when the house is already burned to the ground. >> sandra: very interesting. really appreciate you to come on to talk about that study tonig tonight. also here tonight is dr. scott atlas, senior fellow and former chief of neuroradiology at stanford university medical center. dr. atlas, it's great to have you here this morning because i recall a conversation that you and i had on "america's newsroom," and you said a quote to me and it made a lot of news and grabbed a lot of headlines. there is no risk to children from covid-19. you simply said that children just don't get this. with dr. fauci last week, he said children are not immune to this disease. so now go to the college conversation we are having now and how much are we seeing people of that age spread coronavirus? >> i just want to correct a couple of things before we move on. i didn't say there is no risk. is that there is no significant risk. and i never said children don't get the infection.
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i said they have no risk for a serious illness and they are not significant spreaders. and that was proven yesterday in a contact tracing study from switzerland, the origin of cases they are yesterday, 0.3% in schools. that data has never changed. as far as the college discussion you just had with the professor, i think there is a huge disconnect for what the goal of public policy is here. the goal of stopping covid-19 cases is not the appropriate goal. the goal is simply twofold, to protect the people who are going to have a serious problem or die, the high risk population, and to stop hospital overcrowding. there should never be in there is no goal to stop college students from getting an infection they have no problem with. 99.8% are in people over 24. there's no problem for college students and if there are high risk college students, of course, we need to protect them.
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similarly, we need to protect high-risk professors but 87% nationally are under 65 at stanford university. it's not a high-risk age group although some people are high risk. they need to be accommodated by social distancing. they can do things that they are still afraid from a distance but you don't lock down healthy people. is just irrational. you can't sit there and do a test on people creating a frenzy for tests that are not scientifically indicated when these people have no problem with the illness and the reality is that you get the test and then 5 minutes later, the test isn't really valid. the test is a cross-section and time. people are kidding themselves to think that a test is as valuable and what are you going to do when you test a college student who is asymptomatic? you say you must quarantine 14 days? this has become irrational. you have to realize with the purpose of testing is for the purpose is to protect the high
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risk group i'm getting an infection, not to protect college student. >> sandra: what about this? you dig through the study which i tried as much as i could tonight, but it does not address how this could spread to a high-risk teacher or professor or staff on that campus, those who clean the dormitories or work in the dormitories or how it might affect college towns across america. you do have young kids who are caring around the disease but asymptomatic. >> again, we have to respect the elderly, the high risk people. we have to protect them, and the way to protect them is to devote resources, but be strategic here. a tremendous amount here, not march or april. we have a strategic prioritize testing plan because we need to lower the deaths to the high risk people. we don't need to be in a frenzy to test high school and college students. this is becoming really detrimental and destructive in a nonfocus strategy.
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they are not writing in epidemiology paper here. we are trying to protect the high risk people. we need to keep them safe, need to have everyone very diligent about this, but we don't need to just frenzy test people all over the place and by the way, that destroys the ability to get critical information on the test from people who are at high risk. we have testing delays because we are doing a million tests every day, it's getting to be crazier, and they need to be able to get the results from the high risk tests. no one else -- there is a prioritization here that i could go through next time. >> sandra: we will have you back because people want to believe what you're saying, because parents of college students want their kids to go back to campus and get back into the classroom. it's important, but of course, as you are pointing out, they are so much to consider. appreciate the conversation, thank you. want to abolish history classes saying that they lead to white
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>> sandra: a democratic lawmaker is calling for the abolishment of history classes saying that they lead to white privilege and a racist society. a state representative goes on to say this. "of black history continues to be devalued and taught incorrectly. i am calling on local school districts to take immediate action by removing current history books and curriculum practices that unfairly communicate our history. illinois state representative joins us now. thank you for being here this evening. so what is your message? why do you want to pull these books? be back we definitely won't have enough time to go over all of it, but i think you for the time. we know that the history books that we have were written years ago, decades, centuries ago by pretty much one group of people, and that is white men, and we know that it is not perfect accounting for the contributions that women have made, that black people have made, and is just
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not right that we continue to teach people inaccurate history that is not inclusive of all the contributions that have been made in america. america is a melting pot, and that's what we teach in schools, that it's a and pot of everyone. and we should have a perfect accounting of that melting pot. >> sandra: what has been the response to your call to do th this? >> the first response was to make sure we talk preslavery because blacks were more than. they were more than enslaved people, and once we start talking about making sure that we get the account of african-americans in this country, hispanics, lgbtq+, the jewish community, asians, they all came and said you are right. our history is not accurately accounted for either and women really came out and said it is so unfortunate that we are
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excluded in our contributions in american history and royal history. that's why it took off and that's why we have the momentum we have now to abolish the current system, replace it with civics until we can get a better accounting of history in this country. >> sandra: really great to have you want tonight. thank you for coming on. we will follow-up with you. also here tonight, contributing editor for the national institute online and fox news contributor. what's your reaction? >> good to talk to you. i am all for adding books rather than subtracting books and it certainly takes a while to write the kind of inclusive history that the representative was discussing, so i wouldn't be for ending history classes until those books show up. i am all for having a more inclusive history that discusses the contribution of the folks he was talking about, but i don't think they should be done in such a way that you erase the
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history of white people, which was significant. i am all for discussing the work of george washington carver, a great black scientist, but that doesn't mean we stop talking about the contributions of thomas edison who was responsible for the lights you see behind the camera writing me up right now. we talk about madame c.j. walker, a woman who was a millionaire who created a company that sold skincare products in 1900 or so, a black woman who was a millionaire and you don't hear much about her and we ought to hear her story which we don't get too much offered very much in history classes. i hope this focus on a more inclusive history focuses on the contributions and successes and achievements of blacks, hispanics, asians, other minorities rather than just epistemology. talking about a man who was a detroit auto worker, started a company called motown which created beautiful music and was a successful business. carlos santana was a poor
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mexican kid from tijuana and came to the united states as an immigrant and became one of the most legendary musicians of the 20th century so i'm all for inclusive history as long as it does two things, be inclusive and not just basically tear down white history the way statues have been tore down and let's talk about the negatives like discrimination and slavery let's also talk about black success, hispanics success, minority success and not create a false history of victim analogy and suffering and oppression. >> sandra: really interesting perspective, so how do you balance that? obviously, this is part of the broader debate happening right now to creating and telling a more complete story of our nation's history while not erasing it. >> i think it's an additive process. rather than take it away, you add to it. i understand when you have a class meeting in junior high or high school, only so many hours a day, but i think you can add more to history which is a positive then taking things away
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and basically just deleting the history that existed before. that's not a plus. adding to the history we've known that we've loved and is part of the american tail, adding to that as a positive. >> sandra: where do you think we are as a country right now with everything that has happened in the weeks and months and the destruction of property and conversations about, the debate in some cases that the level of frustration that we have seen in this country rising to new heights. where are we today? >> i've never seen a level of racial tension like i've seen today, 56 years i've been here. and the saddest thing about it is there seems to be a real effort to paint america as a nation that is just irredeemably, irreversibly racist and oppressive and completely forgot about all the successes of black people had in this country. let's just start with the fact that barack obama was president of the united states, elected not just once, but twice and comfortably. no one seems to focus on that anymore and if this is such a deep systematically racist
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country, that would not be allowed to read i think we would've let condoleezza rice; powell run the state department, eric holder and loretta lynch run the department of justice. this is such a racist country, i don't think they would've allowed the white racists who supposedly run this country to allow those black folks to run that department or let a white man govern the country from the oval office right here. there's a lot of positive in this country we need to focus on, things i didn't go well all over history but a lot of it was, most of it was fun let's keep that as part of this rather than tear the country to pieces which is what i see today. >> sandra: thank you for this discussion and your thoughts and perspective on that. great to talk with you today, thank you. the story continues next. it can plunge you into deep, dark lows. and, can leave you feeling extremely sad and disinterested.
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>> sandra: that is the story of monday, august 2, 2020. as always, the story continues. see you bright and early on
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"america's newsroom tomorrow. until then, have a great night, everyone. thank you so much for joining us. see you tomorrow. ♪ >> tucker: good evening and welcome to "tucker carlson tonight." any day joe biden will announce his pick for the actual democratic nominee, the person who will run the government if biden wins in november. we've been telling you about this process for weeks. we have taken a closer look at three potential candidates, all are said to be on joe biden short-list. stacey abrams, karen bass, kamala harris. in a normal year, no mainstream candidate would consider any of these people. all of them would be disqualified without debate. karen bass is a lunatic fidel castro acolyte who praised


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